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Poster: raindogg Date: Dec 10, 2005 6:18am
Forum: etree Subject: good metal bands in the archive?

Hey there,
Anybody know of a good metal band in the archive?

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Poster: xtifr Date: Dec 12, 2005 9:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: good metal bands in the archive?

Mostly what I've found is that the bands on the Archive which could be described as metal (or metal-like) tend to be on the punkish or grungy side of metal. I'm not entirely sure why, but that seems to be the status so far (though I'd be glad to hear any recommendations of more pure forms of metal here).

The recommendations posted so far are good--I've been a fan of the Butthole Surfers for years. I'll also add fIREHOSE as another band that might be worth investigating.

I should comment that Hank Williams III usually does two sets of completely different music: one of really nasty outlaw country, and one of some sort of hardcore grunge-metal that he calls "assjack". So if you listen to some, and it sounds too much like country, don't give up--you're just listening to the wrong set! :) (Me, I like both sets, but then, my tastes are extremely eclectic.)

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Poster: raindogg Date: Dec 13, 2005 5:13am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: good metal bands in the archive?

Yeah, I never did appreciate the punk or grunge scene too much (actually, I consider the release date for nirvana's nevermind as the death of rock and roll).
I'm a product of the '80s and really love good clean metal (as well as Grateful Dead and Jamband music).
Something similar to AC/DC or Maiden, ozzy, etc... (obviuosly none of these guys are going to share in the archive!), but something similar to that. Alot of times, metal bands have to be really sharp and precise, as well as loud, so audience tapes don't really capture the essence, unless proffessionally done with a matrix from the board or something.
Anyways, if you guys find any metal bands in here, let me know!

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Poster: xtifr Date: Dec 13, 2005 11:19am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: good metal bands in the archive?

Hmm, actually I'd consider AC/DC to be rather on the grungy side of metal, even though they predate grunge by a couple of decades. :)

In fact, AC/DC is reported to be mildly in favor of fan taping, but they haven't persuaded their label to agree (and, presumably, don't care enough to get into a big fight about it). And I think I actually heard something about Maiden allowing tapers at some of their more recent shows, but I wouldn't swear to it. And Metallica used to actually have a separate tapers section at their shows, which is probably part of the reason they got so upset at Napster and ended up as the poster-boys for the RIAA. But none of these bands has actively opted into the Archive.

I suspect the real reason you see more grunge and grunge-metal on the Archive is, quite simply, Pearl Jam. Metal doesn't really have a well-known and popular fan-taping advocate to inspire copycats the way jam-bands and grunge do. (Although Metallica might have filled this role if they hadn't been caught up in the whole Napster mess.)

Fortunately, I like grunge and punk and metal (and folk and blues and bluegrass and funk and jazz and...so on). At least, I like some artists who perform some of the above; I'm more into specific artists than I am into specific genres. I thought Nirvana was overrated, but the real grandaddy of the grunge scene, Mudhoney, is one of my favorites. As are the great-grampas, AC/DC. :)

And now, to change directions abruptly:

They're not exactly metal, but Umphrey's McGee regularly covers Spinal Tap songs. And it's definitely not metal, but the Radiators have at least one show here with the Tap's own bass-player, Derek Smalls (sometimes known, by the ignorant, as Harry Shearer). Also featuring Allman Brothers/Gov't Mule guitarist Warren Haynes.

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=24623

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Poster: raindogg Date: Dec 14, 2005 3:52am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: good metal bands in the archive?

Yeah, I guess ac/dc isn't quite metal, more rock n roll i suppose. Umphrees is a great band, I just caught on to them earlier this year and they are definitely in my top three or five or so bands that are touring right now. They definitely show a little metal influence in their jams!
I keep wiating for a metal revival to happen, when guitar solo's are heard on the radio again, and all the band sings about is getting laid, or partying or killing baby pigs or whatever. The main thing with grunge that I never liked was the pathetic self pity songs (along with less than competant musicianship, and no guitar solos!).
I know grunge arose as the anti-thesis of the hair bands of the late 80's like poison and cindarella. But damn, there was dome good music there for a little while and we never got it back!

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Poster: nagdot Date: Dec 10, 2005 9:09am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: good metal bands in the archive?

local h is hard as is hank williams lll(assjack he plays bass for superjoint ritual) alex skolnick trio plays metal in the form of classical guitar its not bad check out and you will know us by the trail of dead the rainmakers arent metal but are harder and suffrajett is kinda hard punk butthole surfers zwan im sure theres more

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Poster: Horrid Date: Dec 12, 2005 6:11am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: good metal bands in the archive?

Check out the Supersuckers. They aren't metal...kinda more punkish and country when they want to be.